Democrats and Republicans don’t agree on much. But they do agree that voter registration lists across the country are a mess.
A new report by the Pew Center on the States finds that more than 1.8 million dead people are currently registered to vote. And 24 million registrations are either invalid or inaccurate.
And how many of these dead people will actually vote? How many people will go to the trouble of using these names and vote more than once? It’s an absurd notion- doesn’t happen and won’t happen (not to any substantial extent to make a difference in outcomes). HOWEVER, electronic machinations with electronic devices are EASILY manipulated. Piece of cake to do, and probably already has been done, many times. We are sheep being led to the slaughter. We are giving away one of our last basic rights as democracy and a civilized country. We will become a bannana Republic very soon, and even sooner with rightwing astro-turf manipulation. Welcome to totalitarianism.
You are clueless if you thnink ineligible voters are not voting.
I’m not saying that- it is a miniscule “problem” enormously over-blown by the Right for very shrewd reasons. That is what I’m saying, in my non-clueless way.
So the Voter ID “ONLY” needs to be renewed “every four years.” So basically EVERYTIME THE AVERAGE PERSON WANTS TO VOTE THEY WILL NEED A NEW CARD. How in the he!$ is that efficient, convenient, or EASY….? And again, I ask the question that no one will answer, becuase they cannot: How do we citizens KNOW that the machines taking our votes are counted correctly and not open to manipulation? Waiting mainly for Dan to (try to) answer that…
You need to renew your drivers licence or state ID every 4 years anyway.
Not if you don’t drive. What if you lose your ID just at voting time, then you lose your right to vote…? Just another right down the drain. Oh well, no biggie…
I know! Let’s require correct citizens to have tatoos in a convenient place on the body…!! I’m brilliant! Oh wait, that’s been done before…. Well, still a good idea right???
No. If you lost your ID right before the election, you’d vote with a provisional ballot and then go back after the election to provide ID and have your vote counted.
Ohhh… ok! Gosh I’m so silly…. and my provisional vote would actually be counted! Of course! And for me, an infirm elderly person with no car and no driver’s license would gladly jump right on that and git’er’done! Thanks Dan!
Dan must be busy receiving the Iron Cross for services to the Homeland.
My Representative, Bev Scalze insists there is no, nada, none voter problem in Minnesota. She is one of the few who doesn’t realize that we have made National News in regards to our loose registration progress, the lack of accurate voter roles and the ability of questionable vouching practices. She repeats the Liberal mantra that the felons, halt, minorities and one armed paper hangers will be disenfranchised with no examples or proof. Just irrational B S. States that have enacted voter ID have had numerically larger turnouts across ALL DEMOGRAPHICS.
Show us some proof of that there claim a yourn!
What there is no proof of any coordinated voter fraud. (Even if there was/is was it big enough to make any difference in ANY election EVER?) There has been however, real ELECTION fraud. Do different animals and worth your while looking into, especially if you are so concerned about fraud. And that means “voter fraud” is a fantasy “problem” with a very motivated group of upper crust wealthy people who want voter ID. Why does that not make you think harder about this non-ssue. And why are so many of our public servants spending so much time and effort on this and not all the other more important real problems, like jobs for instance.
Yes, there is. I have copies of sworn affidavits from an election judge and poll challenger who witnessed organized vouching fraud underway in the 2010 election. It’s now under investigation by the Minneapolis Police Department. See here for news coverage: http://www.mndaily.com/2010/11/08/students-may-face-felonies-over-illegal-voter-vouching
In 2004, Americans Coming Together (ACT) was exposed for engaging in the exact same activity in Minnesota. Volunteers with ACT would wear a button to identify themselves as vouchers so the people involved in their scheme could pick them out and get them to vouch for them.
In 2002, 94 people registered to vote using the address of Jake’s (a strip club) in an apparent conspiracy to elect the club’s owner mayor of Coates. http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/supct/0506/opa031782-0609.htm
The mayor of Coates!!!! OMG! For the record I don’t condone that kind of “voter fraud”. No one does. It’s all well and good to investigate that kind of thing- but the issue as a whole is a smoke screen, and it is being used to avoid the real issue which is, and always has been, election fraud. And additional benefits for the Right, for icing on the cake.
Do you care about election fraud? If not why? If so, prove it.
Let’s just get the new ‘Mericans tattooed at birth from now on… and us oldsters too, of course, at the local tattoo parlor. Who’d pay for that though? Moral Majority? The wealthy elite? The big bad government?! And who’d end up with the #666? Maybe Dan could volunteer for that honor…
maybe he already did…!!!
Officials in South Carolina, facing resistance from the Department of Justice to their new voter ID law, concocted a ghoulish tale of dead voters taking over the state’s elections.
As was suspected from the beginning, the fevered stories of “zombie voters” turned out to be fantasy. This week, state elections officials reviewed 207 of the supposed 950 cases of dead people voting, and couldn’t confirm fraud in any of them. 106 stemmed from clerical errors at the polls, and another 56 involved bad data — the usual culprits when claims of dead voters have surfaced in the past.
So the question is, how did this cheap B-movie fiction make it into the public debate in the first place?
Read more: http://www.bluenc.com/how-south-carolina-zombie-voter-hoax-collapsed
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that, ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’” Isaac Asimov